Demetra Frequently Asked Questions
Last
modified:5/11/2003
"Printer
error" without any printer installed
"Select
install disk - 2" error
"Access
to unamed file denied" error
"The
date chosen is outside the modelling time span ! More recent dates are not
allowed !" error
Odd
modification of default options
In custom
mode, error when adding a fixed outlier
Overwriting
of database settings in automated module
FAME database
selection, screen freeze
Different
results in Automated Module and in Detailed Analysis Module
User-defined
regressors and forecasting
Autocorrelation
graphs and partial autocorrelation graphs
User-defined
regressors and forecasting
Customising
ARIMA models in X12
Uninstalling
previous versions of Demetra
Error related
to MSVCRT.DLL (bad entry point)
Error message
"Select install disk - 2"
Automated
selection of the best trading day option
Automated
selection between additive and multiplicative model
Customisation
of moving holidays
Results
differ on screen and in the logfile (confidence interval)
Question
When trying to work with
Quality Reports, I get an error "The (default or current) printer device
is not correctly initialized. Please choose a (different) printer."
Answer
It is probably because there
is no printer driver installed on your PC. The workaround for this bug is to
install a printer driver, even if you do not intend to ever connect a printer
to this PC. You do it as you would do for a real printer installation, there is
no need to have a real printer connected to the PC to be able to install
printer drivers.
(Added/Modified:
26/11/2002 ; Demetra Version: All versions)
Question
I am trying to install
Demetra after downloading it from Circa website. I get an error message
"Select install disk - 2". What should I do ?
Answer
The reason is that the
download from Circa site was not complete. You have to download the setup file
again and make sure it is the same size as indicated on Circa.
(Added/Modified
: 4/12/2002 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
On some rare network
configurations, "Access to unnamed file denied" error when first
trying to save Demetra project
Answer
Try to save it again and
from this time, everything works fine.
(Added/Modified
: 11/02/2003 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
Error message "The date
chosen is outside the modelling time span ! More recent dates are not allowed
!" when trying to add an additive outlier in custom mode.
Answer
Before correction in a
future version of Demetra, use another mode like the Detailed Analysis Module.
(Added/Modified
: 9/04/2003 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
In Automated Module, Custom
Mode, to check Easter Effect resets some of the options above.
Answer
After selecting Easter
Effect, do not forget to check if the options above ("Try to reduce number
of regressors", …) are as you want.
(Added/Modified:
5/02/2003 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
On some machines, when
trying to add an outlier, the time span looks strange (ex: -32767/-32767) and
you get "The date chosen is outside the modelling time span" when
trying to add the outlier.
Answer
Wait for a correction in a
new version of Demetra
(Added/Modified:
5/02/2003 ; Demetra Version: All versions)
Question
The time series update
function in the Automated module overwrites the output database settings with
the settings for the input database. This of course has a negative impact only
when the results should not be saved to the input database but to a different
one.
Answer
Wait for a correction in a
new version of Demetra
(Added/Modified:
11/02/2003 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
For FAME databases, the
selection of the output database does not work and blocks the user when the
current directory contains more than nine *.db files: Demetra starts looping,
and the user can re-gain the control over the programme only by killing the
"Demetra Fame Server" (e.g. famentsvc.exe on WinNT)
Answer
Work in a directory with
fewer *.db files until correction in a new version of Demetra
(Added/Modified
: 11/02/2003 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
Results are not exactly the
same in Automated Module and in Detailed Analysis Module
Answer
Wait for a correction in a
new version of Demetra
(Added/Modified
: 11/02/2003 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
Problem with the forecasted
trend series when working with user-defined regressors: the forecasts of the
original (uncorrected) series and the forecasts of the trend do not take into
account the trend regression effect factor.
Answer
This bug comes from TRAMO,
not from Demetra. It has been corrected in more recent version of TRAMO, not
yet implemented in Demetra. Workarounds: Divide the "FINAL TREND" by
"TREND REGRESSION EFFECT FACTORS" and multiply by 100 or Multiply the
"FORECAST OF FINAL TREND" by the forecasts of the "TREND
REGRESSION EFFECT FACTORS" and divide by 100. The forecasts of the
"TREND REGRESSION EFFECT FACTORS" can be obtained by multiplying your
user-defined regression variable by the corresponding regression coefficient.
(Added/Modified
: 5/11/2003 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
Sometimes forecast results
appear in logarithm and trend is multiplied by 100
Answer
This bug comes from TRAMO,
not from Demetra. It has been corrected in more recent version of TRAMO, not
yet implemented in Demetra.
(Added/Modified
: 5/11/2003 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
I cannot see all the
messages of a Circa Newsgroup because some are too old. How do I change that ?
Answer
In the bottom right part of
the window, there is an "Edit Preferences" icon you have to click.
Then in the "Preferences" window, change the value in row
"Newsgroups", column "Max shown".
(Added/Modified
: 5/12/2002 ; Demetra Version: All versions)
Question
How to change my personal
details (e-mail address,…) in Circa ?
Answer
You can do it only from the
"welcome screen" of Circa (the one that lists all the interest groups
(IG) availables), so if you are already in an IG, you have to click first on
the arrow sign in the lower right end of the screen (Exit).
There, in the "welcome screen", you have a list of options in the upper
right section. Click on Personal Information.
(Added/Modified
: 11/04/2003 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
Where can I find help about
the preparation of the time series for Demetra in Excel format ?
Answer
From Help menu, choose
"Contents and Index" then click on the "Contents" tab then
go to "General instructions for the preparation of input and
interpretation of output" -> "Format of the MS-Excel files (input
and output)".
(Added/Modified
: 27/11/2002 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
Is it possible to use
Demetra to obtain autocorrelation graphs and partial autocorrelation graphs of
the original time-series data?
Answer
ACF and PACF are present in
the log file, for the differenced series. If you want them for the original
series you have to set "Specification -> Modelling -> Data Handling
-> Transformation" to None and "ARIMA model specification ->
Model Order -> Differencing" to 0 then in the Graphical Comparison
Tool, ACF of differenced series (TRAMO) will correspond to ACF of the original
series.
(Added/Modified
: 5/12/2002 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
Is it possible to use
Demetra to obtain the Mean-Squared Error (MSE)?
Answer
TRAMO reports in the log
file the MSE of residuals for the regARIMA model. (Result Analysis -> Show
Log File)
(Added/Modified
: 5/12/2002 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
When working with
user-defined regressors, only 8 future values of the regressor are taken into
account.
Answer
In menu "Specifications
-> Statistical Treatment", go to the tab named "Forecasting",
check "Produce (and use) Forecasts" then put another value.
(Added/Modified
: 6/04/2003 ; All versions : Demetra Version)
Question
How to work with models
other than the 5 default in X12a ?
Answer
You can add or delete models
to/from the list of currently 5 default ARIMA models by using the 'Model Types
Used' edit field in the 'Automatic Model Selection' group box from the
'Automatic Model Identification/Selection' tab of the 'Modelling
Specifications' window. This modifies the contents of the 'x12a.mdl' file (in
the Demetra home directory) that is directly used by the X-12-Arima method. For
more information about the formatting of the 'x12a.mdl' file, please consult
the X-12-Arima Reference Manual available at the website of the US Census
Bureau.
(Added/Modified
: 11/04/2003 ; Demetra Version : All versions )
Question
How to use Demetra to
forecast beyond 2 years ?
Answer
Though it is not recommanded
to forecast beyond 2 years, the results of the forecast over 2 years are
visible in the log file of X12a (not in Tramo/Seats). In other cases, use the
graphical comparison tool.
(Added/Modified
: 11/04/2003 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
Is it compulsory to
uninstall previous versions of Demetra before a new installation ?
Answer
No. Yet it is recommanded to
avoid multiple entries in Windows 'Add/Remove Programs' list
(Added/Modified
: 20/11/2002 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
What happens to the Data
subdirectory during uninstallation/installation of Demetra ?
Answer
Only files coming with the
installation are removed/overwritten. These files names all start with
'Example'.
(Added/Modified
: 20/11/2002 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
When working with my
recently installed Demetra, I always get an error related to MSVCRT.DLL (bad
entry point).
Answer
It is because some system
files could not be updated during installation of Demetra because the user is
not authorized to modify Windows System directory. The solution is to have
Demetra reinstalled by an administrator.
(Added/Modified
: 20/11/2002 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
I am trying to install Demetra
after downloading it from Circa website. I get an error message "Select
install disk - 2". What should I do ?
Answer
The reason is that the
download from Circa site was not complete. You have to download the setup file
again and make sure it is the same size as indicated on Circa.
(Added/Modified
: 4/12/2002 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
I have problem working with
SAS databases. What shall I do ?
Answer
All relevant informations
about SAS databases can be found in Demetra User Manual and in section
"Software/Demetra software/SAS related documents" of the library.
(Added/Modified
: 15/04/2003 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
When using the option
"Allow reducing the number of trading day regressors", what
statistics are used to compare models in order to choose the "best"
trading day option ?
Answer
Demetra tries all the values
and compares the "SA Quality Index" obtained for each try.
This composite index is calculated on the basis of the statistics that you
checked in the "Rules for Quality check" windows. The closer this
index is to 0, the best.
(Added/Modified
: 16/04/2003 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
The model switched from
additive to multiplicative when adding a new data. Is it normal ?
Answer
If you use the "test
for log" option, TRAMO will decide which model to use, depending on the
contents of your time series (this decision can change when you add a new
value, as well as the model can change). If you really want to fix additive or
multiplicative model, you have to fix it in the parameters.
(
Added/Modified : 16/04/2003 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
How to work with Demetra
when you have to consider non-standard moving holidays ?
Answer
The solution is to use a
user-defined regressor.
(Added/Modified
: 20/11/2002 ; Demetra Version : All versions)
Question
Regarding confidence
intervals, why are the values in Demetra 1.02041 higher than the values in
Tramo log ?
Answer
Demetra does not use the
roughly rounded factor 2 but the more exact value 1.96 in the calculation of
the confidence intervals. This value corresponds to the two-sided statistic
z(alpha/2) of the normal distribution at a confidence level of 95%.
(Added/Modified
: 15/04/2003 ; Demetra Version : All versions)